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M INUTES
Wednesday, October 10, 2018, 7:00 P M
Council Chambers, City Hall. 114 North Broad Street, Salem
1.C all to Order
A regular meeting of the Planning C ommission of the C ity of Salem, Virginia, was
called to order at 7:00 p.m., there being present the following members to wit: Vicki
G. Daulton, Chair; Denise P. King, Vice C hair; Reid A. Garst II, N. J ackson
Beamer, and Neil L. Conner; with Vicki G. Daulton, Chair, presiding; together with
J ames E. Taliaferro, Assistant C ity Manager and Executive Secretary; C harles E.
VanAllman, J r., Director of C ommunity Development Department; Benjamin W.
Tripp, C ity Planner; and William C. Maxwell, Assistant C ity Attorney.
2.C onsent Agenda
A.Minutes
Consider approval of minutes from the September 12, 2018, work session and
regular meeting.
Approved as presented
3.New Business
A.Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance
Hold public hearing to consider the request of J ames H. Stewart and Kenton N.
Bohn, lessees, and Mechanical Services & Installation LLC, property owner, for
rezoning the property located at 748 W. Fourth Street (Tax Map #142-3-1) from LM
Light Manufacturing District to HBD Highway Business District.
T he Executive Secretary reported that notice of such hearing had been published in
the September 27, and October 4, 2018, issues of the Salem Times Register and
adjacent property owners were notified by letter mailed September 25, 2018.
Staff noted the following regarding the rezoning request: the subject property
consists of a single parcel of approximately 0.3 acres, located on the southeast
corner of the intersection of Fourth Street and Spring Street, to the south of the
intersection of Fourth and Main Street. T he property is currently occupied by a
single story office space on the 4th Street side and two connected storage/warehouse
spaces which front on Spring Street. T his request is to rezone the property to allow
it to be used as a retail store. T he proposed business buys used items such as
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electronics and then resells them, often online. T his will be their first location in
Salem, in addition to locations in Roanoke City. T he new business will have 2-3
employees, and the applicant has indicated they would like to improve the property
by adding landscaping.
C hair Daulton opened the public hearing and asked if there was anyone to speak.
J ames Stewart, Lake Bluff, Illinois, lessee, appeared before the
C ommission explaining the rezoning request. He noted that he and his business
partner are interested in operating a retail business at this location, and after meeting
with Mr. Tripp and Mrs. Wines, they were informed that the property was not zoned
correctly for retail. So, they are requesting to rezone the property to HBD Highway
Business District.
C hair Daulton asked what type of retail business would this be. Mr. Stewart
explained the business concept and noted it is basically a resale business that is
mostly done on the Internet. With this concept, people can bring their goods to trade
or sell.
C ommissioner Garst noted if he understood correctly, they have a retail location to
get people to bring their goods in and then they typically sell it online. He asked Mr.
Stewart is this was correct. Mr. Stewart noted that this is correct to a degree. T here
is a little bit of an overlap. In other words, they may have customers who come to
buy something, and they have something to trade in. T heir largest retail turnover is
in game systems so there are a lot of people bringing games to upgrade and get
different games. However, there is a large portion who come to just sell.
C ommissioner Conner noted if he heard him correctly this particular location will be
geared more towards online sales and try to drive the foot traffic to the store in
Roanoke. Mr. Stewart noted not to necessarily drive the foot traffic but any larger
items that is not conducive to selling online then they have an outlet to sell them.
Vice C hair King noted they have a letter from the property owner. She asked him if
he understood that the Commission is being asked to rezone the property and is not
a personal permit for the lessees. T his would change the zoning of the property no
matter who owns or leases the property. Mr. Stewart noted he understands this.
Further, they were given permission by the owner to file for the rezoning.
C hair Daulton noted that he mentioned they had changed the location in Roanoke to
a pawn shop. She asked if they have intentions for this location to be a pawn shop in
the future. Mr. Stewart noted that he did not think so because it is not large enough
from a storage perspective. Also, the security aspect would be greater if they went
to an advocated pawn shop in this area. At this point in time, it is certainly not on
their radar.
Vice C hair King asked him if most of the locations they have across the country
generally do not change to pawn shops. He noted that most of the stores they have
owned have been strictly retail stores. T he one in Roanoke is the only store they
have turned into a pawn shop, and it was primarily due to their customers asking
them to do this.
C hair Daulton asked him what was the advantage of having a location in Salem
when they already have a store in Roanoke. He mentioned that it is typically
demographics and a density of demographics. Further, they have a lot of customers
who drive from this area to the Williamson Road location. Also, he has seen how
Salem has progressed over the years he has been coming to this area, and it is
attractive from that perspective.
C ommissioner Beamer asked him if they would be open five or six days a week.
Mr. Stewart noted that it would be six days a week, and they would be closed on
Sundays. T hey are projecting they would be open from 10 am to 6 pm.
C ommissioner Garst asked Mr. Stewart is he could tell him the things that
differentiate a pawn shop from his retail model. Mr. Stewart noted collateralized
loans essentially. In other words, with a resale shop a customer sells them a watch
for $100, and then it is theirs to sell. With a pawn shop, a person gives them the
watch, and the owner has the right to come back and buy it back at $115 next month.
It stays in their possession until the person comes in to pay off the loan or pay the
principal and the interest.
C ommissioner Beamer asked if they have any other locations in Virginia besides the
one in Roanoke. Mr. Stewart noted the original owner of Cash C onverters had six or
seven stores in Virginia Beach and the Hampton Roads area, etc. He sold out to
Easy Pawn about four years ago, and they purchased the store in Roanoke from him
because Easy Pawn did not want this one as it was so far from the other stores.
C ommissioner Garst asked staff if the HBD zoning would allow for a pawn store,
and Mr. Tripp noted that it would allow for this use. T here was further discussion
regarding pawn stores in general and the fact that there is one right down the street
from this location. Mr. Stewart noted at this point they are not interested in doing a
pawn store. If the business model changes, then they might look at this.
C hair Daulton asked if there is enough parking for the business, and Mr. Tripp
noted that staff had looked at parking, and there is sufficient parking. Mr. Stewart
noted he believes there are eight to ten parking spaces.
Vice C hair King asked if they would be using the entire building because she
noticed that it connects to the two big storage buildings. Mr. Stewart noted the
property owner has storage in the two buildings so at this point they will not be
using them.
Roger Martin, who owns the adjacent building at 736 West Fourth Street, appeared
before the C ommission. He noted that his concern is the parking for the proposed
building. He stated there are ten parking spaces, and he questions if this is sufficient
parking when they will have a couple of workers plus the people coming in to shop.
He has three renters in his building, and he is concerned that the overflow of traffic
will come over to his building. T here are times when his building uses every space
they have. He does not have a problem with the business. Chair Daulton asked staff
if Mr. Martin could put signs on his building that the parking is for his building. Mr.
Tripp noted that it is his property, and he could put signs up and also tow anyone
who may park there from the proposed business. Mr. Martin noted that he was
aware he could put up signs, but reality tells him there will be more people coming
than the parking they have. T here was further discussion regarding the parking for
the proposed building. Mr. Tripp noted that he and Mrs. Wines met with the
applicants, and they looked at the parking as part of the review. He further explained
the code requirements for the retail space, and they determined there was adequate
parking to meet the code.
Mr. Taliaferro noted that the request is to rezone the property from LM Light
Manufacturing District to HBD Highway Business District. During the plan review
process, there will be a zoning permit. At that point, C ommunity Development will
look at the use and the required number of parking spaces, and the applicant will
have to provide the number of spaces or they cannot get the permit to occupy the
building.
Mr. Stewart noted that their intention is to not have a retail floor. He stated will be
partitioning off part of the space and using about 1/3 of the space for the public. He
estimated it would be about 800 or 900 square feet. T he intention is not to attract
people to come and shop as much as people to come and sell their items. Most of
those transactions are completed in less than 10 minutes. He doubts they will have
the parking lot full with people wanting to sell things, and he would be grateful to
have that problem, but they certainly do not expect to have that amount of traffic. At
the current store in Roanoke, they do about 45 to 50 purchase transactions per day.
At this location, their goal for the first year is to average about 15 a day. Again, they
are not attracting retail customers. Further, they will only have two staff members
working. He understands Mr. Martin's concern and appreciates that it is a valid
concern.
C hair Daulton asked if there was anyone else to speak on this matter. T here was no
response, and the public hearing was closed.
T here was further discussion regarding the available parking, and it was noted there
should be some parking on Spring Street. Mr. VanAllman noted that they base
required parking on the use of the building and not the zoning.
J ackson Beamer motioned to recommend to the Council of the City of Salem that
the request of J ames H. Stewart and Kenton N. Bohn, lessees, and Mechanical
Services & Installation LLC , property owner, for rezoning the property located at
748 W. Fourth Street (Tax Map #142-3-1) from LM Light Manufacturing District to
HBD Highway Business District be approved. Reid Garst seconded the motion.
Ayes: Beamer, Conner, Daulton, Garst, King
4.Adjournment
T he meeting was adjourned at 7:27 p.m.