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PLANNING COMMISSION
February 11, 2015
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Salem, Virginia, was held in
Council Chambers, City Hall, 114 North Broad Street, at 7:00 p.m., on February 11, 2015, there
being present the following members of said Commission, to wit: Bruce N. Thomasson, Jimmy
W. Robertson, Samuel R. Carter, III, and Denise P. King (Vicki G. Daulton – absent); with Bruce
N. Thomasson, Vice Chair, presiding; together with Melinda J. Payne, Director of Planning and
Development; Charles E. Van Allman, Jr., City Engineer; Benjamin W. Tripp, Planner; Judy L.
Hough, Planner; Mary Ellen Wines, Deputy Zoning Administrator/ Secretary; and William C.
Maxwell, Assistant City Attorney; and the following business was transacted:
ON MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CARTER, AND DULY CARRIED, due to the
absence of the Executive Secretary, Judy L. Hough is hereby appointed Executive Secretary Pro
Tem for this meeting of the City of Salem Planning Commission by acclamation.
The January 12, 2015, work session and regular meeting minutes were approved as
written.
In re: Hold public hearing to consider the request of Nikola Sumenic, property
owner, for rezoning the properties located at 805 and 811 Craig Avenue (Tax
Map #s 47-4-4 and 38-6-5.1) from RSF Residential Single Family District to
RMF Residential Multi-Family District (City Council voted on Monday, January
26, to send the request back to the Planning Commission)
The Executive Secretary Pro Tem reported that this date and time had been set to hold a
public hearing to consider the request of Nikola Sumenic, property owner, for rezoning the
properties located at 805 and 811 Craig Avenue (Tax Map #s 47-4-4 and 38-6-5.1) from RSF
Residential Single Family District to RMF Residential Multi-Family District (City Council voted on
Monday, January 26, to send the request back to the Planning Commission); and
WHEREAS, the Executive Secretary further reported that notice of such hearing had
been published in the January 29 and February 4, 2015, issues of the Salem Times Register, and
adjoining property owners were notified by letter mailed on January 30, 2015; and
WHEREAS, staff noted the following: the subject property consists of two parcels
located along the west side of Craig Avenue, south of the intersection with Thompson
Memorial Drive; the total acreage is approximately .83 acres, and the larger lot is currently
occupied by a single family residence; previously, the applicant submitted a proposal that
would have allowed the construction of a single multi-family building containing 10 two-
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bedroom apartments and 2 one-bedroom apartments; the plan included the construction of a
parking lot for the use of residents and guests, as well as a storm water facility in the basement
of the building; after consideration at their January meeting, the Planning Commission voted to
recommend denial of the request to City Council; prior to the City Council meeting on Monday,
January 26th when the request was scheduled to be heard, the applicant submitted a revised
plan for the development, and requested to have it referred back to the Planning Commission
for them to reconsider with the changes; the new proposal would allow the construction of two
off-set multi-family buildings containing 6 units each; one of the units will contain both of the
one-bedroom apartments; on January 29th, the applicant submitted a letter asking that the
request be continued until the March 11th meeting, in order to allow them more time to work
on meeting storm water requirements; in accordance with Section 106-400, this project
requires the submittal of a Site Plan prior to development commencing; at the October
Planning Commission meeting, several neighbors spoke in opposition to the request; among
their concerns were water pressure and sewer flow in their neighborhood; they contended that
there was a problem with both; the Planning Department contacted the Director of Water and
Sewer to find out if there were any problems in the area; it was determined the water pressure
and sewer flows were sufficient to handle the proposed development; at the November
meeting, the request was continued to the December meeting to allow the developer time to
address concerns related to sight distance for ingress/egress as well as storm water
management; the developer’s engineer met with the Engineering Department regarding the
sight distance, and it was determined he could apparently meet the intersection sight distance
recommendation from VDOT, which can probably be achieved with considerable grading and
earthwork; the developer is aware that he would have to fully control the modified 100 year
storm volume in order to get storm water management (SWM) approval; this is a pretty
stringent requirement, but it is an avenue that can receive SWM approval; at the December
meeting, the petitioner and his engineer requested a continuance to the January meeting in
order to address further concerns related to storm water management; the developer’s
engineer met with the Engineering and Inspections Department, and they believe an acceptable
plan has been identified; at the January meeting, the Planning Commission voted 3-1 to
recommend denial of the request; the applicant subsequently revised the plan to attempt to
alleviate neighborhood concerns and asked that City Council refer the request back to the
Planning Commission for reconsideration under the new design; and
WHEREAS, Barney Horrell of Brushy Mountain Engineering, 3555 Carvins Cove Road,
Salem, representing the property owner/developer, appeared before the Commission
explaining the revised project; he noted he is excited about the project as he is a civil engineer
and as an engineer when going through school lot of things are based on failure & analysis; why
things failed and how to make them better so they will work the next time; the design they
brought before the Commission the last time was a failure; it met all the code requirements, i.e.
drainage, sight distance, etc. but it was a failure because it was not suitable to the
neighborhood; they heard this at the last meeting and this is why they asked City Council not to
consider the request and allow them to come back with an entirely different design; he noted
they have gone from one large bread box building which ran kind of parallel to the street to
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something much more appealing from the street; the proposed project now has two smaller
buildings which brings the scale much more in line with the residences on the street; the
parking has been pulled in from the road a little bit, which allows them to hide it better using
the topography and some landscaping; the layout still has 12 units, 10 of which are two
bedrooms and 2 of which are one bedroom; the required number of parking spaces are
provided, and there is good maneuverability in the parking lot; further, the plan complies with
the landscaping requirements; he further discussed an additional plan they had considered
which had the driveway further down Craig Avenue, and again, the sight distance came up as a
very big concern so they heard this and immediately went back to this design; the driveway has
been pushed as far to the north as it can be, and it does have adequate sight distance; in
addition, the owner has cleared a little more brush off the front property line to further
improve the sight distance; with the proposed plan, there will be some additional grading done
in the front corner bringing the bank back some; and after discussing the design with some city
staff members, the owner is very agreeable to granting an additional easement on the front, 10
or 15 feet, whichever the city believes is necessary; this will be a grading easement so if in the
future the city deems public safety is not up to par, they can pull more dirt out to further
improve the sight distance; and again, the driveway shown on the plan meets the minimum
sight distance set by the Virginia Department of Transportation based on the speed limit; and
WHEREAS, Commissioner King asked if the additional property that could be granted to
the city lies along Craig Avenue; Mr. Horrell noted that this was correct, however, the property
will not be granted, an easement will be granted which will remain in the owner’s possession;
he will still be responsible for mowing the grass and keeping the landscaping up, etc.; he again
explained this would be used if the city determines that additional space is needed; Chuck Van
Allman noted that if weeds or plants were allowed to grow up in this area further reducing the
sight distance, this gives the city the ability to go in and cut those down; and
WHEREAS, Mr. Horrell noted the other big concern he heard from the Commission at
the last meeting was the previous storm water design; the plan had the storm water in the
basement area of the large bread box building; again, this engineering worked but it is not
something that we see very often around this area; with the new plan, the storm water will be
underground detention under the parking lot; they have also improved the design as there is no
storm water outlet or pipe that will exit the property; with the previous design, they had a
series of pipes that bled out to the west of the building; all this has been eliminated; all the
runoff will go into the underground storage; he further explained the underground storage and
noted it is a package system that is used all over the country; he noted that he has done
installations of this system in other locations and other states as well; further, the manufacturer
specifies all the maintenance and the installation criteria, etc. and
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WHEREAS, Vice Chair Thomasson asked if it would slow drain, and Mr. Horrell noted
that this was right, it will perk into the ground; further, they have provided enough detention
volume that in a 100 year storm all the water will be held and would not be allowed to run off
the site; this is about as much volume requirement as can ever be required on a site; they will
be detaining all the volume and allowing it to slowly perk into the ground; Mr. Thomasson
asked if there would be a perk test, and Mr. Horrell noted that he has done some perk tests; he
explained that the difficulty is that the system ends up sitting about 8 to 9 feet below existing
grade so he has not done any perk tests at this level; but the design will hold 100 year volume
without any perking; and
WHEREAS, Mr. Horrell noted that sight distance was another big concern at the previous
meeting; since that time he contacted the school board and spoke to the lady who routes the
buses; he discussed the project with her; she said that currently the bus comes up Craig Avenue
from the south to the north, goes up to Penguin or Polar Lane, turns around, and comes back
down Thompson Memorial; he explained how there was some concern about sight distance
coming up the hill, and she said the number one priority is the safety of the kids, and they will
gladly reroute the buses and come down Craig Avenue if they feel this is safer; Vice Chair
Thomasson asked if this would be from north to south, and Mr. Horrell noted this was correct;
and
WHEREAS, Mr. Horrell noted he feels engineering wise they have ended up with a better
design and constructability it is a better design; he stated there was some concern about the
proposed tenants, and he stressed the developer cannot prohibit anyone from renting; they did
some research regarding the requirements of Roanoke College; the College has a very strong
desire to keep all their students on campus, all four years if possible; they allow students to
move off campus, but there is a petition process and certain criteria must be met; the highlights
of the criteria are the student must be over 23 years of age, have children, married, active
military, have parents or grandparents who live within 30 miles, been a resident of Salem prior
to enrolling, etc.; the last exception is if they have extra students they are unable to fit in
dorms, then they allow them to move off campus based on seniority; he further discussed the
requirements with regards to seniority; and
WHEREAS, Mr. Horrell presented a 3D flyaround as part of his presentation; he noted
they paid a lot of attention to the facades of the buildings trying make them look on scale with
the existing house; he further explained the layout, landscaping, materials, etc. of the project;
he further noted that the presentation gives a better idea of the scale of the project and by
going from one building to two buildings really makes it look more residential and less like a
dormitory; and
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WHEREAS, Commissioner Robertson asked about the elevation of the property at the
rear located behind the proposed parking lot; he noted if he recalled correctly it is rather steep
in this area; he further noted he is assuming that they will be taking the dirt out of the parking
lot area and moving it back to elevate the building for proper drainage into the detention area;
he asked if the water from the buildings would be draining into the parking area; Mr. Horrell
noted that he was correct regarding the dirt being moved to the rear; further, there will be
gutters on the buildings and the gutters will direct the water to an inlet which is between the
two buildings and from there enters the underground detention area; Mr. Horrell noted that
the finish floors of the two buildings are within six inches of each other; and
WHEREAS, there was further discussion regarding storm water management; and
WHEREAS, Ed Oliver of 846 Craig Avenue appeared before the Commission in opposition
to the request; he noted that he has lived here since 1989; he stated he thought Mr. Horrell did
a great job and made some good improvements to the project; he is an engineer and he
controls what he can control; he stated he is a safety consultant, and he would like to look at
this from the safety aspect; he wanted to look at how life is going to be on Craig Avenue; the
plan looks really good and the buildings look good; with regards to Roanoke College rules and
regulations for students who live off campus, he noted that is a fiasco; he has had the Assistant
Dean of the college come to his home, and they put up a sign on one of the homes a couple of
doors up from his home; the sign states no alcohol on the premises, and he has pictures
especially on a Friday or Saturday night where alcohol is everywhere; he noted that it is obvious
that the sign does not mean anything but is just to placate the neighbors; he offered to show
pictures of the situation; when we have a college where the students are transitory and they
are away from home and not under the eye of the dean, then we have a problem; he gave a
presentation showing traffic patterns, etc.; he discussed I-81 and all the problems with
accidents, etc.; the neighbors anticipate a problem similar to I-81 if this complex is approved;
he noted that we have no control over I-81 but we do have control over Craig Avenue where
people live; he also passed his IPad around showing a home on Craig Avenue with red cups and
beer cans littering the yard and street; he further discussed problems with the Roanoke College
students living on Craig; now, with the proposed apartment complex, they could have more
students living there; he asked the Commission to put themselves in the neighbors’ shoes
because life on Craig Avenue will never be the same again; and again, we have no control over
I-81 but we do have control over Craig Avenue; and
WHEREAS, Theresa Shepherd of 840 Craig Avenue appeared before the Commission in
opposition to the request; she noted the changes being presented do not change the
neighbors’ position; they still believe that the land and the neighborhood are not suitable for an
apartment building; they believe that the Planning Commission’s obligation is to make a
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recommendation that supports what is best for the community as well as the existing residents;
this land is not suitable for a project like this one as evidenced by the amount of changes that
are required to meet the code; even though the engineer has indicated that they will make a lot
of changes that will make it in fact meet the code and be suitable, but as noted so far she does
not believe this will happen; the reason she believes this is because the owner has had people
cleaning up the property so that it was presentable for the Commission’s visit; during this
cleaning, the brush was placed on the side of the road as well as in the road; they had to call to
get the City to pick up the brush; and now, this evening there is a vine hanging down in the
street from the owner’s cleanup, and they had to drive on the other side of the street to keep it
from hitting their cars; she believes that this is indicative to them of the type of neighbor they
will have, if this apartment complex is allowed to proceed; further, the cleanup has not been
done in a tidy fashion; the petitioner and his engineer have presented a pretty picture, but they
all know this is not the case with apartment complexes; there are already two major apartment
complexes on Craig Avenue but they are in a much better suited area; they are off the road,
have walking areas, playgrounds, swimming pools, etc.; she further noted that those complexes
have acreage but with the proposed complex, she believes that it is only 75’ and is a very small
area; she agrees that the picture looks very nice but she does not think we will see that; in
addition, she believes that the complex will result in 40+ cars at any given time; if we have
college students living there, then we will have one car for every person that lives there; she
thinks that a two bedroom apartment will have probably six people living there; she further
discussed the City’s ordinance regarding unrelated individuals living together; she believes that
nothing but harm will come to this community if this request is approved so they beseech the
Commission to do the right thing and deny the request; she further discussed the reasons she
felt it should be denied, i.e. property has been zoned as residential for more than 70 years, is
not suited to build apartments upon, the Planning Commission originally rejected the request,
property is located on a blind curve, current neighborhood is single family homes, and etc.;
further, putting an apartment building in this area will significantly reduce the property value of
the existing homeowners; they have information from a realtor indicating that their property
value would be reduced by up to 25%, and she thinks this would be terrible; they also believe
the proposed project will reduce their quality of life and possibly subject them to high crime
rates and safety problems; and
WHEREAS, Commissioner King noted Mrs. Shepherd said they had contacted a realtor,
and she asked her if she could tell her the name of the realtor; Mrs. Shepherd said that she
would prefer not to give the name; Mrs. King asked her if this was a licensed realtor with
appraising capabilities; Mrs. Shepherd noted it was a bona fide realtor in Salem, and it was a
statement that was made; the realtor did not come out and appraise the property; she noted
that her property is worth over $250,000 and she would hate to think that the value would be
reduced; they do not live in shacks – they live in a nice neighborhood and it would be
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unfortunate that their neighborhood would be ruined because of another apartment building
on Craig Avenue; and
WHEREAS, Margaret Spurlock of 845 Craig Avenue appeared before the Commission in
opposition noting she was in agreement with her neighbors; she noted that Mr. Oliver and Mrs.
Shepherd said what she had on her notes; this will cause more traffic in one area, and past this
property there are blind driveways; and further, her concerns have already been discussed; and
WHEREAS, Fred Lee of 1000 Craig Avenue appeared in opposition to the request; he
noted he has lived on Craig Avenue for about 47 years; he has dealt with college students for at
least 15 years; there has been major problems and a taskforce was formed; at one time there
was 45 members and now they are down to 15 members including Roanoke College and City
staff; the City Code states up to four unrelated individuals can reside in a residence; currently at
900 Craig Avenue he knows there are six living in this house; every morning he goes out to get
the newspaper, the same 6 cars are there; further, on the weekend, there can be 10 cars there;
if the college students move into the proposed apartment buildings, we can figure probably 40
cars, and he does not think there is enough room to put that many cars; in his opinion, if we let
college students move in, they will not be good neighbors to live in this neighborhood; further,
he echoes what Mr. Oliver and Mrs. Shepherd stated, and he requested the Commission to
deny the request; and
WHEREAS, Mary Sanchez of 832 Craig Avenue appeared in opposition; she noted she
has lived here for 7 years; as a mother, she is concerned for the safety of her children because
the students have big parties; on the weekends there are a lot of cars, and her children are
afraid to go into the back yard to play because of the noise from the parties; the students
create a big mess and have a lot of trash in the yard; the trash blows into her yard and her
neighbors’ yards, and they have to clean it up; if students or families move into the new
apartments, she does not think it will be the same neighborhood they have now; and
WHEREAS, Fred Lee noted if the City chooses to change the bus route, Ms. Sanchez’
children will have to cross the street to catch the bus since they live on the other side of the
street; he further noted right now the bus runs in both directions as he sees it come up the
street and then a little while later it goes back down; and
WHEREAS, William Shepherd of 840 Craig Avenue appeared in opposition to the
request; he noted that everyone had pretty much covered his concerns; he noted he was also a
member of the task force which Mr. Lee had mentioned; one of the things he brought up at a
meeting was that these are not students of Salem, Virginia, they are students of Roanoke
College and Roanoke College needs to do something about the behavior; he called the police
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twice in the last week because there has been a car parked half way in the street near the store
on the right hand side of the street heading in a southerly direction; the police had to come and
tell them to move the car; he also discussed the number of unrelated living in a house; the
students totally disrespect the neighborhood; he further discussed a party that took place the
past weekend and the behavior of the students; this is not to say that the developer would
solely want college students in the apartments, but it is whoever they can rent to that meets
the qualifications; further, he does not feel this project would improve the neighborhood; if the
developer wants to make an improvement, he should build a couple of houses as there is
enough space for two houses; he hopes the Commission will consider the feelings and concerns
of the neighbors and reject the request to rezone; and
WHEREAS, Vice Chair Thomasson asked Mr. Horrell and Mr. Sumenic, if they would like
to make any additional comments, and Mr. Horrell noted they did not have any other
comments; and
WHEREAS, Vice Chair Thomasson noted the Commission has been here several times in
regards to this request, and they appreciate everyone’s input; they also appreciate the
petitioner’s willingness to make changes; further, they have listened and have taken good
notes, and he called for a motion; and
WHEREAS, Commissioner King noted she appreciates the discussion about the problems
the residents have had with Roanoke College, but she does not think we can hold the petitioner
responsible for the actions of Roanoke College; however, she believes that the current zoning is
reasonable for this area;
ON MOTION MADE BY COMMISIONER KING, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
ROBERTSON, AND DULY CARRIED, the Planning Commission of the City of Salem doth
recommend to the Council of the City of Salem that the request of Nikola Sumenic, property
owner, for rezoning the properties located at 805 & 811 Craig Avenue (Tax Map #s 47-4-4 & 38-
5-5.1) from RSF Residential Single Family District to RMF Residential Multi-Family District be
denied – the roll call vote being as follows: Mrs. King – aye, Mr. Carter – nay, Mr. Robertson –
aye, Mr. Thomasson – aye, and Mrs. Daulton – absent.
WHEREAS, Vice Chair Thomasson noted the request will go to City Council on February
23rd at 7:30 pm, and that the Planning Commission is an advisory body to City Council; Council
will have the final decision in the matter; he complimented Mr. Sumenic and Mr. Horrell on
their effort to make this project workable; and he thanked the residents for their input.
There being no further business to come before the Commission, the same on motion
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adjourned at 7:52 p.m.