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MINUTES Wednesday, September 11, 2024, 7:00 PM Work Session 6:00PM Regular Session 7:00PM Council Chambers Conference Room, City Hall, 114 North Broad Street:
WORK SESSION
1. Call to Order
A work session of the Planning commission of the City of Salem, Virginia, was held
in Council Chambers Conference Room, City Hall, 114 North Broad Street, at 6:00
p.m. on September 11, 2024; there being present said Commission members to wit:
Denise P. King, Reid Garst, Mark Henrickson; Jackson Beamer; and Nathan Routt,
constituting a legal quorum, presided together with Chris Dorsey, City Manager and
Executive Secretary, ex officio member of said Commission; Jim Guynn, City
Attorney; Mary Ellen Wines, Planning & Zoning Administrator; Maxwell S. Dillon,
Planner, and the following business was transacted:
Chair King called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. and reported that this date,
place, and time had been set for the Commission to hold a work session.
2. New Business
A. Discussion of items on the September agenda 1. Zoning Ordinance amendments
a. Storage containers
b. Retail sales, smoke shops
3. Adjournment
Chair King adjourned the meeting at 6:51pm
REGULAR SESSION
1. Call to Order The regular meeting of the Planning commission of the City of Salem, Virginia, was
held in Council Chambers, City Hall, 114 North Broad Street, at 7:00 p.m. on
September 11, 2024; there being present said Commission members to wit: Denise
P. King, Reid Garst, Mark Henrickson; Jackson Beamer; and Nathan Routt,
constituting a legal quorum, presided together with Chris Dorsey, City Manager and
Executive Secretary, ex officio member of said Commission; Jim Guynn, City
Attorney; Mary Ellen Wines, Planning & Zoning Administrator; Maxwell S. Dillon,
Planner, and the following business was transacted:
Chair King called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. and reported that this date,
place, and time had been set in order for the Commission to hold a regular meeting.
2. Pledge of Allegiance
3. Roll Call
All members of the Commission were in attendance.
4. Consent Agenda
A. Minutes Consider acceptance of the minutes from the August 14, 2024, work
session and regular meeting.
On motion by Commissioner Henrickson seconded by Commissioner Routt
the minutes of the August 14, 2024, meeting were accepted.
Chair King introduced Nathan Routt as the newest member of the
commission.
5. Old Business
Item A. Amendment to the City code Chapter 106 Zoning. Hold a public hearing to
consider amending Chapter 106, Zoning, Article IV Development Standards, section
106-406 miscellaneous provisions of the CODE OF THE CITY OF SALEM,
VIRGINIA pertaining to storage containers. Continued from the June 2024 meeting.
Chair King opened the public hearing at 7:04 p.m. and asked if anyone would like to
speak to this matter.
Mary Ellen Wines, Planning & Zoning Administrator, 21 S. Bruffey Street, appeared
before the Commission recalling a time around 2017 when the city came to realize
that storage containers or shipping containers had become an extremely popular
and economical way for businesses to store products, merchandise, and inventory.
As a result of the multitudes of containers that had been inundated in the City, it
became apparent to some that it is possible that these containers could potentially
be a detriment to our major corridors and could be without regulation. So, in 2017
an ordinance was adopted that would allow storage containers only on a temporary
basis, (30) thirty days in residentially zoned properties and (90) ninety days in
commercial and industrially zoned properties. Enforcement on that was difficult as
staff was limited. As enforcement was increased due to the addition of the Codes
Compliance Investigator position it was quickly obvious that that businesses needed
that economical storage and that keeping them on a temporary basis really does not
help them in the long run. As the ordinance was reviewed, a balance between the
needs of the businesses and the detriment to the community was hard to reach.
Staff is now presenting a code amendment that would allow permanent storage
containers on commercial and industrial properties. Residential properties will stay
the same. Residents can get a permit and keep a container for (30) thirty days while
they are doing work on the home, or while they are moving. If the resident needs
additional time, an extension can be granted. If there is a building permit associated
with the container then the storage container can stay as long as the permit is
active and construction is continuing. As for commercial and industrial properties,
new regulations to bring a balance have been proposed. The regulations would
state that no vehicle truck body, detachable semitrailer, manufactured home, mobile
home, bus trailer, recreational vehicle, or similar equipment shall be used as a
storage container in any zoning district. Shipping containers and mobile storage
containers, however, can be allowed for non-residential or agriculturally zoned
properties. If these containers are only needed for a short period of time, a zoning
permit may be issued to allow the temporary use making these containers not to
have to adhere to some of the requirements in the proposed ordinance. If these
containers need to be temporarily allowed in the right of way, then a Right of Way
permit would be needed, and the regulations would apply to this situation per the
City’s engineering division. If these containers are found to be used as a building for
occupancy, swimming pool, or a storage container home and if it adheres to the
Uniform Statewide Building Code, then it does not have to adhere to this section
either. If a current building permit has been obtained, the containers do not have to
adhere to these regulations. If used on a permanent basis for commercial zoned
property they would be limited to (2) two containers per acre. There is no limitation
on industrially zoned property. If the property is less than (1) one acre (1) one
storage container will be permitted. If multiple parcels are owned that are adjacent
or contiguous, then the containers can be consolidated on one parcel without
having to spread them throughout the adjacent properties. All containers must be
placed in a location that does not encroach upon parking spaces, drive aisles, fire
lanes, landscaping or stormwater management areas. These containers need to be
placed where they will not inhibit sight distances so there will be no safety issues.
Each container shall be reported to the Commissioner of the Revenue’s office for
tax purposes. This is not a new regulation, just reiterating that they should be
reporting them. No container shall display any type of signage. No container shall
be connected to any public utility services. The stacking storage containers will be
prohibited. If the property using the storage container is adjacent to residential
property it will be required to have a landscape buffer installed. Additional
standards will apply to the City’s major corridors including Main Street, Wildwood
Road, 4th Street, Thompson Memorial, College Avenue, Electric Road, Texas Street,
Roanoke Boulevard, Apperson Drive, South Colorado Street, and Lynchburg
Turnpike. These major corridors should be protected as they are the entrances into
the city for visitors and future business owners. All containers in the above-
mentioned areas shall be painted a singular neutral color, such as black, white, gray,
brown, cream, beige, and taupe. All containers must be maintained free of rust, free
of deterioration, graffiti, and other decomposition. Containers shall have a maximum
length of (20) twenty feet and must be placed behind the front building line of the
principal structure.
Vice-Chair Garst stated he would like to commend Ms. Wines and her staff for all
the hard work they put into this presentation.
Chair King asked if anyone else had any comments. With no reply, Chair King
thanked Ms. Wines.
Chair King asked if there was anyone else to speak on this matter.
Duane Smith introduced himself and stated his address as 1020 S. College Ave. Mr.
Smith being in favor of these amendments, spoke to them being a great
improvement over the existing rule of carte blanche not being allowed that was
adopted in 2017. Mr. Smith questioned if the current containers would be
grandfathered or not.
Ms. Wines answered that containers that were in place prior to 2017 would be
considered grandfathered.
Mr. Smith, wanting clarification, stated anything prior to 2017, anything (7) seven or
(8) eight years ago.
Ms. Wines responded that as long as it has not moved or been replaced it would be
considered legal nonconforming.
Chair King clarified that the 2017 date was when the current zoning went into
effect.
Mr. Smith stated that his biggest concern with all of this was that most of the
people who own the containers that are getting the most complaints are
grandfathered in. He explained that he has a number of these containers for his
properties, and some of his tenants also have them. Most of the containers are
excluded; they are grandfathered and meet these rules because he is already
proactive about the regulations for his properties. Mr. Smith noted that he knows of
some containers in the valley that have brought about the complaints, and the
problem with most of those containers is that they are also grandfathered. This
status will not change anything regarding their appearance or location.
He questioned the solution for new businesses that may move into space, find they
need extra storage, and encounter the same issues his tenants have faced—
outgrowing their space but not wanting to move. While there is an option for
adding on, they often have inventory that becomes excessive, requiring them to
free up some space. He provided the example of one tenant who has equipment he
is not currently using, which is stored in a container. Mr. Smith believes these
regulations may still restrict new businesses in their potential for growth, despite
the need for some rules.
If the requirement is that the containers should be painted a neutral color, then all
containers, even those in place before 2017, should adhere to this rule. He pointed
out that some containers look quite bad, and there are many old items around, like
old trucks and buildings. Mr. Smith agreed that the current proposal is much better
than what is in place now. He acknowledged that if all the rules were enforced,
about 400 people in town would be upset. The City of Salem itself has a couple
dozen of these containers, including tractor trailers and box trucks that have had
their frames removed, all of which are grandfathered and do not meet current
regulations. Carter Machinery has a whole row of them.
Mr. Smith thought the rules could still be tweaked a bit. While he sees the proposal
as a positive step forward, he is unsure how to appease existing concerns without
making things difficult for those who may need additional storage. He pointed out
that this approach would not resolve the issues regarding eyesores, especially since
some containers have been in place for much longer than others.
He felt that this amendment is an improvement over the current situation,
especially compared to a scenario where no one is allowed to have a container. He
noted that in his neighborhood, everyone has an outbuilding to store items like
lawnmowers, which parallels the need for commercial buildings to have space for
storage. The reason for containers at his properties arose from incidents of theft;
the Salem Police Department advised him to secure items. The only way to lock
things up in a fenced lot is to place them in a container. Mr. Smith mentioned that
he stores his lawn equipment, pipes, wire, and other items that would typically be in
a shed or outside within a container.
People are interested in purchasing containers, but due to the ongoing discussions,
they are uncertain about making such a commitment. He emphasized that these
containers are definitely needed and that rules should encourage people to maintain
their surroundings. There is a significant gray area surrounding this topic, and
residential properties require some provisions as well. He suggested that the
timeframe for compliance could be extended from 30 days to 90 days, as projects
like kitchen remodels often take longer. Most people do not want a container sitting
in their front yard indefinitely.
Mr. Smith acknowledged that Ms. Wines and her team had worked hard on this
initiative, and he believes it is much better than before. However, he admitted
uncertainty about whether this would be the definitive solution, though he views it
as an improvement. He expressed hope that some of the existing issues would be
addressed, as they draw attention to the containers located at his properties.
Chair King asked Mr. Smith if the new zoning amendment, allowing tenants to have
storage containers, would make them happy as long as they were maintained.
Mr. Smith responded that, based on some conditions outlined in a particular
paragraph, some of his properties would still not be allowed to have a container due
to their locations on major streets with additional restrictions. He noted that they
might be allowed to have one 20-foot container but not two, as they would need a
40-foot one. He emphasized that all containers should be presentable, even those
that aren’t visible. He mentioned that College Avenue impacts several of his
properties, and while some farther down are zoned industrial, others on College
Avenue, 8th Street, or 9th Street remain visible. He questioned whether this meant
he would need to put a fence around everything, noting that a 9-foot-tall container
would require a 10-foot fence, which would not adequately hide an 8-foot fence in
front of it.
Ms. Wines clarified that a landscape buffer is required, not a fence, explaining that a
12-foot fence could be just as intrusive as the storage container itself.
Mr. Smith reiterated that while this amendment is better, he hated to see some
tenants potentially without storage because of it. He felt there should be some
leeway in the regulations. He pointed out that many thoroughfares, like Apperson
Drive, have numerous containers. Skyline Door and Valley Printing have them
behind their businesses, which can be seen from the street. The containers along
West Main Street are also numerous and will be grandfathered, so their appearance
won’t change. He noted that the city cannot require their removal, as most owners
didn’t spend $6,000 on a storage container for no reason; they genuinely needed
them. After sharing his thoughts, Mr. Smith said he wouldn’t fuss about the
amendment, acknowledging it is a significant improvement, but he wasn’t sure it
fully captures the spirit of what the Commission intends the ordinance to achieve.
He stated that when one needs a storage container, it is essential, but it shouldn't
look like an old rusty bucket is thrown in the yard.
Mr. Garst asked Mr. Smith if he still had concerns about the goal of the code to
clean up the visibility of these corridors, reiterating that this might not happen
because the vast majority of containers are grandfathered in.
Mr. Smith replied that between Andrew Lewis and Advanced Auto Parts, there are
probably a hundred containers in that area, which aren’t noticeable unless someone
is specifically looking for them. However, some on Apperson and 4th Street stand
out significantly. He noted that these grandfathered containers have attracted
attention to the rest of them, leaving the answer unclear.
Chair King remarked that some jurisdictions have outlawed storage containers,
while acknowledging that businesses do need them.
Mr. Smith replied that in Roanoke City, particularly on Shenandoah Avenue,
containers are everywhere. He stated that while residential neighborhoods don’t
need them, many businesses do, as they often prefer them over wooden storage
buildings, which are less durable and secure. He noted that storage containers are
sealed to keep out bugs, mice, and weather. He mentioned that he has items that
store better in a storage container than in his own basement, as these containers
are designed for shipping and can withstand various weather conditions. He cited
examples of areas using containers for low-income or affordable housing, stacking
them to create complexes.
Mr. Hendrickson inquired about the term "grandfathering," asking when it applies—
upon property sale or other conditions.
Ms. Wines explained that containers are grandfathered until they are moved in any
way, shape, or form.
Mr. Hendrickson questioned whether this means that if someone sells a property,
the storage container could remain indefinitely.
Ms. Wines clarified that while it could stay, if it is replaced or used for different
merchandise and then moved, it loses its grandfathered status.
Mr. Hendrickson expressed appreciation for the definition of grandfathering.
Ms. Wines elaborated that the only way to effect change is through development,
similar to how new landscaping requirements come about. She noted that while
containers last a long time, they might need to be switched out eventually. If no
amendment is in place when they are moved, then no change will occur.
Mr. Routt asked if there was any way to bypass the grandfathering status.
Mr. Garst added if there is a different way to regulate those containers that are
grandfathered.
Mr. Routt sought clarification on how certain containers received grandfathered
status.
Ms. Wines explained that there are uses and structures that don’t conform to the
new code, which are considered legal nonconforming and may remain. However,
they cannot be forced to meet the new code, and the only option is to move
forward.
Mr. Hendrickson inquired about alternative ways to regulate the existing containers,
particularly those considered eyesores or grandfathered in.
Ms. Wines responded that changes cannot be made through the zoning ordinance,
but property maintenance codes might provide some form of regulation. Anything
in the zoning ordinance falls under the legal nonconforming status.
Mr. Smith expressed a desire to see the eyesores cleaned up without punishing past
or future property owners. He noted that if containers are needed and not
detrimental to neighboring properties, they are a benefit. He considered the
amendment better than the 2017 ordinance and preferable to having no containers
allowed at all. He compared wooden storage buildings to metal containers, stating
that the former aren’t even equal to the latter.
Ms. Wines stated that it would require significant research from the zoning
department to determine which containers are grandfathered. She explained that
some have been in place for a while but may have been switched out over the
years. If any changes were made after 2017, those containers wouldn’t be
grandfathered, despite their long-standing presence. She acknowledged that this
would be a difficult and time-consuming process.
Mr. Smith remarked that this situation would affect companies like Lewis Gale and
Carter Machinery. He noted that Lewis Gale has had containers around which they
have built with infrastructure, and some are even wired.
Mr. Hendrickson sought clarification about whether someone could place a wooden
building, such as those sold by Leonard or Anchor, on the property without
distinction from a metal storage container.
Ms. Wines responded that under the current code, they could.
Mr. Hendrickson noted that this regulation seems inconsistent.
Mr. Wines clarified that it is regulated, as a permit is required.
Ms. Wines further explained that wooden buildings are considered accessory
structures and thus are subject to regulations.
Mr. Smith added that obtaining a permit for an accessory structure is possible.
Ms. Wines affirmed that in commercial and industrial areas, there are fewer
regulations.
Mr. Beamer reiterated that storage containers are superior to wooden buildings.
Mr. Smith remarked that while he could have a row of wooden buildings, he could
not have a row of shipping containers, stating that the latter are a better structural
option.
Mr. Garst questioned whether a storage container is considered an accessory
structure.
Ms. Wines confirmed that they are not.
Mr. Smith contended that there should be no distinction between a wooden
building and a storage container since both are delivered and moved in similar ways,
differing only in material.
Ms. Wines clarified that storage buildings must meet building code requirements,
such as foundation and anchoring, which adds additional regulatory layers that
storage containers do not have. A mobile storage container is not classified as an
accessory structure and is treated differently.
Mr. Beamer noted that wooden structures must maintain a five-foot setback.
Ms. Wines confirmed this is dependent on the zoning district, stating that
commercial and industrial zones have zero side yard setbacks, while residential
zones require a five-foot setback.
Mr. Smith commented on the complexity of the regulations, noting that they are
evolving as the prevalence of shipping containers in the U.S. increases, with a
significant percentage never leaving the country.
Ms. Wines stated that shipping containers are industrial, possessing a different
aesthetic. She pointed out that while some corridors contain industrial properties,
there must be a balance since there is no perfect ordinance that will satisfy
everyone.
Mr. Smith expressed his support for most aspects of the ordinance, emphasizing
that the needs of tenants in the future are his primary concern.
Chair King stated that a zoning ordinance can be amended.
Mr. Smith reiterated his support for most of the ordinance but expressed that it
remains restrictive for new businesses, particularly those that are growing. He
noted that his tenants typically rent containers after needing additional space for
over ten years, and as the property owner, he does not want them to move.
Mr. Beamer noted that many tenants often lack alternative locations.
Chair King thanked Mr. Smith for his comments and inquired if anyone else wished
to speak on the matter.
Barney Horrell, of 3553 Carvins Cove Road, addressed the Commission, stating that
he initially had no intention to speak but began reflecting on the true purpose of
planning and zoning. He emphasized that planning and zoning involve long-term
goals for a community and that creating an ordinance like this signifies a long-term
vision for where the community is headed. He cautioned that attempting to tailor
an ordinance to address immediate concerns may be misguided.
Chair King asked if anyone else had anything to add. With no further response, the
public meeting was closed at 6:51 PM.
Chair King solicited comments or motions from the commissioners.
Mr. Hendrickson acknowledged the validity of both Mr. Smith's and Mr. Horrell's
comments, thanking them for their input.
Commissioner Beamer echoed Mr. Hendrickson’s sentiments, appreciating the
insights shared. He recognized that while the ordinance was anticipated, the
discussion highlighted areas for improvement. He expressed gratitude for everyone
involved in compiling information for the ordinance and noted that with two new
commissioners, a collective effort is needed to finalize the ordinance, suggesting it
might be prudent to move the decision to the following month’s meeting. He
proposed appointing Mr. Smith to a committee for further discussion.
Commissioner Garst agreed that some good points were brought up. One being
concerned about the unattended consequences of people just home-steading these
containers and not improving them because they are grandfathered. The problems
are not going to be rectified by this change. The biggest offenders are not going to
be incentivized to make the changes this is trying to make.
Commissioner Beamer commended Commissioner Garst.
Chair King asked for any other comments. No one came forward. She asked for a
motion.
Commissioner Beamer made a motion to table the amendment until the November
meeting.
Chair King asked if there was a 2nd.
Commissioner Henrickson asked if an amendment could be made to the motion to
work a little bit more in a direction to solve the issues that have been raised. Let
staff work on it a little more.
Commissioner Routt stated that was the intent of the motion. Knowing the planning
and zoning department worked hard on it and gave the commission ample
opportunity to see several drafts. Now that it is in front of the Commission it seems
different, like it is real. If it were tabled it shouldn’t be left up to the planning and
zoning department to come up with something, help is going to be needed. The help
should come from the Commission or other people, it needs to be a collaborative
effort.
Chair King stated that there seems to be a real problem with the storage containers
that may be grandfathered and any further change in what we have in front of us is
still not going to resolve that issue. We need to start somewhere. We can always
amend zoning ordinances, but we need to start somewhere.
Commissioner Garst asked if it should be put on property maintenance.
Commissioner Beamer stated that he would amend his motion that we continue to
the November meeting. The Commission needs to work with staff to address the
concerns brought before the Commission.
Chair King asked if there was a 2nd
Commissioner Henrickson seconded the motion.
Commissioner Garst stated that he wants to make sure that the work that we do
addresses the current problems with appearance as well as sets forth the vision of
what we are trying to do in the future.
Chair King called for a roll call.
Mr. Routt, aye; Mr. Henrickson, aye; Mr. Beamer, aye; Mr. Garst, aye; Chair King,
nay.
Chair King asked for the second item to be read.
6. New Business
A. Amendment to the City Code – Chapter 106 Zoning
Hold public hearing to consider enacting Chapter 106, Zoning, Article III, Use and
design standards, section 106-310.25 and Amending Chapter 106, Zoning, Article
II, District Regulations, Section 106-214.2(B)(5) Commercial use Types, Article VI.
Definitions and use types, Section 106-602.9 Commercial use types of the CODE
OF THE CITY OF SALEM, VIRGINIA pertaining to retail sales, smoke shop.
Chair King opened the public hearing at 7:42pm
Max Dillon, Planner, 21 S. Bruffey Street appeared before the Commission stating
he hoped he had a little more of a straightforward item to present to the
Commission. He stated in July of 2024, the Virginia General Assembly adopted
legislation allowing localities to regulate the retail sale locations of tobacco
products, nicotine, vapor products, alternative nicotine products, or hemp products
intended for smoking. For any such retail sale location the City may prohibit a retail
sale location on property within (1,000) one thousand linear feet of a child day care
center of a public, private, or parochial school. As a result, staff proposes creating a
use type, “Retail Sales, smoke shop,” which distinguishes general retail sales from
the retail sale of tobacco, nicotine, or hemp products. That new use type will be
permitted in the HBD Highway Business District zoning designation by Special
Exception Permit, and would be subject to the following use and design standards:
• No retail sale location of tobacco products, nicotine vapor products, alternative
nicotine products, or hemp shall be located within (1,000) one thousand feet of
a child day care center or a public, private, or parochial school.
• All windows and doors facing the street right of way shall be maintained as
transparent and shall not be tinted or obscured. Smoking, vaping, or other
related products and paraphernalia shall not be displayed as to be seen from
adjacent properties.
Existing businesses that fall into this new use can remain in a legal nonconforming
status until they cease to operate for a period of two years or longer.
Chair King asked if anyone had any questions for Mr. Dillon.
Mr. Beamer asked if the cigarette store near Andrew Lewis Middle school would be
grandfathered in.
Mr. Dillon answered if it is currently operating it would be allowed to continue to
operate until the use changes or it is vacant for (2) two or more years.
Mr. Henrickson inquired about the store on Chestnut Street because it is located
near First United Methodist they have a daycare, there is one behind Ridge View
Bank.
Mr. Routt pointed out that the store on Chestnut Street is just a convenience store
and it is not affected by this ordinance.
Mr. Dillon noted that cigar and hookah lounges are not included in this definition.
They have been considered a use not provided in the past and they will be
continued to be interpreted that way.
Chair King asked if anyone else wanted to speak. With no one speaking up the
public meeting closed at 7:45pm.
Chair King inquired if there were any comments from Commissioners, if not a
motion would be entertained.
Commission Reid moved to recommend approval as written.
Commissioner Routt seconded the motion.
Mr. Routt, aye; Mr. Henrickson, aye; Mr. Beamer, aye; Mr. Garst, aye; Chair King,
aye.
Chair King adjourned the meeting at 7:46 pm.